【翻唱相关】关于曼式人声音效的探索小白鼠实验

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Chorus, detune, reverb (I like to use about 100 dry, 20 wet, and 40% preverb and work my way from there)
Record one take, copy it, drop it onto a new track, offset it like a millisecond, then do it again on another track, hard left, center, hard right.
Or just slap back delay...
合唱/齐唱效果，扭曲，混响（我一般用100的干声，20的湿声，40%的混响【卧槽你又不说是哪种混响！】）
录一条轨，复制粘贴到另一条新轨上【一起录会死？】，补偿个几毫秒，然后重复动作，形成左，中，右的格式。【这句话说得靠谱，同样波形很小的差距应该能造出空间感。】
或者来一发延迟。。。【感觉不太靠谱……】

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I love Manson, as well... I know he often triple takes his vocals. One being the main vocal, which he then does again (like a double take), with the final one being more of a "spoken" take. Like in the creaky voice he uses when he goes real low. Listen hard and you can hear it underneath it all. It gives it a creepy sound. The mix of high doubled singing and low creaky speaking is probably what you're hearing
我也喜欢曼神耶~他好像经常将自己的人声分为三份。一份作为主音，然后再唱一次。第三条轨就是那种很奇怪的低音了。认真听你就听得出来的……balabala
【这里就在指气泡音音轨，其实他有些歌里是没有这玩意儿的。不过声音单薄的可以考虑这个东西】

然后这个家伙看起来很靠谱的样子
Yeah, he definitely uses multiple tracks for his vocals. That's what gives them such a rich, thick sound most of the time. They tend to be very tight though so that some people don't even notice. One specific effect isn't likely to achieve that for you, especially a distortion which will tend to just make it muddy-sounding. As you notice there is a distorted effect on the Eat Me, Drink Me vocals but at the same time they are very clear sounding. If you try using at least two vocal tracks, with different effects, maybe even at different registers (such as one higher, one lower) I think you'll come closer to what you're looking for. You have to experiment though and find what works for you.
他肯定是用了多重音轨在人声上。这样他的声音就可以变得厚重有层次。有时候都厚得难以察觉了。一种特效是完全不够的【看不大懂】，尤其是那种泥泞化的扭曲。你注意到了EMDM中出现了这种效果，很好，不过整体听起来它又是那么干净。如果你在两条人声音轨上尝试两种不同音效，哪怕是同种音效不同的调量，也许都能接近你所需要的效果。你得不停地尝试。
I've been experimenting with multiple vocal tracks for a while and I tend to get much stronger sounding results this way. I suppose it comes down to what kind of music is behind it as well. If it's very full and heavy sounding the vocals need to stand out more. If it's more raw and stripped down than you could use less vocal tracks as they would already be more prominent.
【还是在逼逼三重音轨，就不翻译了】

伪前

这人说得真多，也不知道靠不靠谱。
Not quite sure as to what instance you are referring to but generally for the kinda stuff that Manson does you would probably get the results you are looking for by using a shallow flanger or a Leslie sound on the voice in the way of modulation type effects.
不知道你说的距离感怎么实现的但是他肯定用了浅度的镶边（flanger）或者Leslie sound【这是什么鬼】来实现效果。
As Manson started life being produced by Trent Reznor who records almost exclusively in digital, I would also consider letting parts of the vocal clip. Usually if you were recording a vocal then you try and avoid clipping, especially with digital, but for an industrial sound then sometimes digital clipping can be good (Reznor has got it down to almost an artform!) You could either record the original source at too high a level or record it then export to Sound Forge or whatever wave program you use and over-normalise the vocal part in places. (This would give you more control over the clipping than just recording it clipping)
【还是在谈失真】
For examples of the digital clipping sound I'm talking about check out the heavier songs on "The Fragile"
提到了九寸钉的【The Fragile】的重型效果。
One thing to consider though is that it is important not to over use any effect on the vocal as it will lessen the vocal track's clarity in the mix.
如果效果太强会让混缩音频失去清晰感。

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我就用吸血鬼开始试了直接先录三条一样的轨
挂的是waves家的高低激励，4是纽约板混响，5压限器（好像并没有什么用）

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这些翻译我给1分你太勤劳了，要是我，每段浓缩成一句